Lynne: So you knew he would not be on that..... portance of it because of George, and it
average? George: He named it. changed my playing for the better.
Keith: Did you really? Lynne: What did he name it? George: Man, you know what I think
George: I knew he would be a profes- George: The big Mississippi beat you absorbed from me more than any-sional drummer from day one. It was (laughs) thing was how to relax your playing.
very obvious, the confidence and atti- Keith: (In funny voice) The big Missis- Keith: Yeah and to know when to do
tude. sippibeat!!!(laughs) what. Like, you know, it’s not always
Lynne: Socool..... George: (laughs) about trying to chop out. It’s about
George: There have been very few of my Keith: or the Mississippi groove. knowing when to make the right mature
students that I can say that about. Lynne: So you learned what you’re do- choices. You’ve always been that mature,
Lynne: You wouldn’t say that if you ing now from him? You didn’t know seasoned groove guy who knows what
didn’t know. What did you guys work on about the groove? to do – when to do what and make the
back then? Keith: Well I never thought about it be- mature choices and that’s what I love.
Keith: It was a lot of application stuff. cause I didn’t know about it. I was thir- And that’s the most important thing a
George helped train my ear. He could lis- teen. I just knew that I wanted to play. drummer or any musician should have,
ten to something and tell me what it was. But I realized at a young age the im- maturity!
I would bring something in, a record- Lynne: And that’samazing!
ing, and he would be able to show me George: It’s not something you can re-what the drummer was doing, and then ally put into words because the student…
I could kind of associate what I heard Keith: And you always made me feel
with… like I was good. You encouraged me and
George: I taught you how to listen and made me feel like I wasn’t wasting my
transcribe. A lot of repertoire. time, you know. And sometimes we just
Keith: Yeah, yeah. And the main thing jammed, like when we played together
was the groove that he… or whatever. It was a vibe that you don’t
George: Yeah, we’ve got the same wide always get with a teacher. You know how
groove - We played a lot together. some teachers can be...
Lynne: Ohreally? George: Too authoritative, too domi-
Keith: Yeah, he’s got this great feel and neering?
Promo shot of Rudder for the album Matorning
I picked up on, at least I tried to pick up Keith: Yeah, We just had fun hanging,