fall and I wanted to look good
for that. Also my dad was in
bad health and that made me
more aware of how the weight
would affect my health. He
died last year. It was a heavy
year for me going through losing him. The catalyst was the
instructional DVD I did for
Hudson Music. I didn’t like
the way I looked in that video.
George: Your dad was great.
He called me when you got
the Steely Dan gig and, in that
deep Southern drawl of his,
he said, “George, what do you
think about this Steely Dan
outfit?” I cracked up. We had a
good conversation that night.
He was so proud of you. What
I noticed about your playing
those two nights…I guess it
was from all these heavy life
things you’ve been through,
and the weight loss, but your
playing was so much cleaner
and… what would be the right
word?
You don’t have to always dig
in, you can just trust that the
mics will do the work, plus
the drums sound better and
don’t choke up.
George: The drums are loud,
man, no matter how hard or
soft you hit ‘em.
Keith: Yeah, if the sound guy
knows what he’s doing, you
just let him handle the volume and mix. It’s the clubs
when I’m not mic’d where I
feel like I sometimes have to
play harder, because I’m more
in control of how I’m balancing with the band.
George: You know who the
master of playing rock with
finesse is? Jim Keltner. He’s
never played hard but his
drums sound huge. He uses
like diplomat weight heads on
his batter heads.
Keith: Focused?
George: Yes, more focused
and also…. You were playing
harder when you were heavier. You were hitting harder.
Keith: Yeah.
Keith: I love that guy.
George: I’ve known you
for 25 years now. (aside to
Lynne); He used to hang out
in my drum shop when he
was a kid. Keith won’t remember this but when he came to
me, and I had already heard of
him – what were you; thirteen,
fourteen?
George: It seems you’ve
backed off that now.
Keith: That is true
George: Consciously not trying to hit
them harder? I heard it in the cymbals
Clearer.
Keith: I don’t hear the harder sound
anymore. At least not so constantly.....
George: There is more nuance in your
playing. More maturity.
Keith: That’s what I hope. I don’t hear
the bash element that I always loved.
learned it from working with Donald Fa-gen. Donald used to always kind of, like,
frown on that and I learned it from him.
I should have learned it earlier. I don’t
have the same weight behind the stick
but…the physics of it are different. I’m
not working as hard. With Donald, he
loves it when it’s just kind of light and
tipping, you know, it’s moving forward
but it’s grooving in a different way, it
Lynne: You had already heard
of him at thirteen?
George: Yes and the big hot drummer
at that time was Neal Peart of Rush. He
came in and said “Well I’ve learned everything that Neal Peart has recorded”.
Lynne: Did he really?!! (laughs)
George: Yes. He said “I can play all that
and I’m bored with it. I want to learn
something else”.
Keith: Did I say that? Oh No! What a
lame and arrogant thing to say! (Both he
and Lynne laugh hysterically).
George: Yeah!
Lynne: Keith, you are too funny! You did
not say that!
Keith: Well, I was a kid!
George: I remember we started working
in that Rick Latham book – Steve Gadd
and Harvey Mason grooves.
Lynne: Did you know when he came in
that he had natural talent?
flows, and I can play with more finesse.
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